Spent a week in a locked suicide ward...no visitors or calls, but dedicated mental health, nursing and psychiatric team...apparently I had to ask and say I was before admission and after release apparently no one even knew I was struggling...
They diagnosed me bipolar put me on one and then a second medication to help tolerate the muscle movement...an empathetic NP took me off those and slowly adjusted an off label seizure medication
I continue with a regimented control with counseling, faith, medication and 12 steps...
Thanks for sharing your story Pete. I have heard similar ones over the years and am happy you have it under control. Faith has been a huge part of my healing too.
Pete, first they give you a low dose of antidepressiva to have a reaction and show you that the medication appears to be working (side-effects), then they move on saying that you need a higher dose but in the end you are not cured at all.
Then they start to give you anti-psychotica to hide the effects of the antidepressiva. In the end you are not cured because your brain has been changed by the meds.
Pete, frankly speaking the braincells are damaged and you loose control in behavior. See the free book in Google books Requiem of Presumed Diseases by Fernand Haesbrouck a pharmacist. He was a pharmacist working in several Mental Institutions and overlooked the medicin given. He saw the changes in the people getting the medicin. That made him speak aloud. Read also his personal story.
When your mitochondria in the cells are damaged the cell will die (apoptosis) and your brains are going to work different and give you another perspection of the world. No one can heal or cure this. What is dead will never live again in the way it has been before.
Pete, see also my contribution Requiem of Presumed Diseases (entry nov 5 above). It is Cyantific mass destruction mongering. The book gives an explanation of the working mechanism of medication of adhd and antidepressiva.
Your continued sharing of Woody's story, gave me the knowledge to ask important questions of my sons healthcare provider. Her response that yes, there are blackbox suicide warnings but in all the years she has given Zoloft to teens, she has only had two or three that became suicidal. We no longer see that healthcare professional.
It’s so sad the way they write off victims as if their lives were not that important. It’s bad enough that often the providers don’t know about the risk, but when they know it, and just dismiss it, it’s doubly tragic.
I couldn't agree more, Christine. Back when my husband was given Zoloft for insomnia by his GP, the drug companies intentionally kept the deadly side effect "AKATHISIA" from GPs. So they didn't know. But today, in 2023, they better know and be curious to learn all they can about these brain altering medications. There is no excuse.
I am so glad you got a new healthcare professional. It is this cavalier attitude of "just a few or barely none or knew one a couple that had issues." We must never forget these small # or % is someone's 100%. One is too many when the information is out there to share.
Please share this historical background of the blackbox warnings. If doctors are NOT going to pay attention, then we must educate the public to ask questions. Thanks Lorri.
The Health Information Leaflet for professionals says Zoloft was approved in 1991 but had a warning in para 14.4 Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that Zoloft was not effective for men. So any prescription was not legal because it was of NO benefit to the patient but had side-effects.
only the non-ethic health professionals knowing that the antidepressant has no benefits for the patient will prescribe this. They studied more then 5 years to learn that they have no questions but have to follow the health leaflet for the patient and they obey to Big Pharma. In the end it is all about money.
Your courage to battle this issue of “unspeakable hardship” is commended. I personally understand the horrific adverse events of SSRIs and we must continue to fight for justice . No individual or family should suffer the broken dreams of lost or injured love ones by an industry sworn to “Do No Harm”. For many decades now the truth as been uncovered about these meds that are “bad & mad science” and society must be warned. The day of reckoning is near for Big Pharma to be held accountable and liable for generations of broken dreams and forever hardship. Godspeed
Thanks Bob or sharing your story and glad to be a partner on this battle. We need to hold the parties accountable for the damage done for decades. As you say, "No individual or family should suffer the broken dreams of lost or injured love ones by an industry sworn to “Do No Harm”. We know who wins the battle!!!
Please share this information widely. I am so thankful for the filmmakers that were present during the FDA hearings and press conference. Otherwise, we wouldn't have record of these hearings since no social media.
my husband committed suicide on antidepressants. It has been more than 14 years now, but there are still days you sit down and think what would have happened if I had just given him st Johns wort instead of letting him go see a psychiatrist.
Hi Ingrid. My heart goes out to you and can feel your pain in the question. I, too, have wondered similar things, but had no clue. We didn't know what we didn't know. We blindly trusted the doctor and never questioned the drug.
I am sending love and light for your heart. It's a hard journey and a club no one wanted to join.
This is so important to talk about. I almost lost a family member to a suicide attempt caused by the Prozac they’d been prescribed, and almost was traumatic enough. Thank you for continuing to speak out.
Joy - Thanks for sharing your family story. I am glad your loved one had a better outcome but know that's a tough road too. Please continue to share your story, the information in this post as I believe there is truly power in stories and information coming together.
It is a shame that none of those who died suddenly are recognized by the mainstream media as having died of ignorant and/or naive suicide by "vaccine."
see 14.4 ..............As PTSD is a more common disorder in women than men, the majority (76%) of patients in Studies PSTD-1 and PSTD-2 described above were women. Post hoc exploratory analyses revealed a statistically significant difference between ZOLOFT and placebo on the CAPS, IES and CGI in women, regardless of baseline diagnosis of comorbid major depressive disorder, but essentially no effect in the relatively smaller number of men in these studies. The
clinical significance of this apparent gender effect is unknown at this time. There was insufficient information to determine the effect of race or age on outcome.
My conclusion: When there is essentially NO EFFECT IN MEN who cares about clinical significance, gender, race or age.
I have found this often in the drugs my FDA Psychopharmacologic Drugs Ad Com is reviewing. I always check out the makeup of the clinical trial and you learn a lot about who they are testing the drugs on. There was one drug for women and it was tested on men. Or the disease is prevalent in a certain race or age, but they had super small # of people in this category. Thanks for sharing!!!
At the end of the first page of the Foreword the autor writes that my documentation was used to write the book Requiem for Presumed Diseases, Paperback, - June 29, 2012.
The book is one of a kind. It is hardly to find another text that explains in a normal way what fraud is going on and have this documented. Pse read before it disappears from the internet.
In this report a novel animal model based on the dopamine hypothesis of schizophrenia is described. The goal of the study was to evaluate the reversibility of amphetamine induced agitation in Beagle dogs. This model is similar to previously described locomotory studies in rats, where rats are dosed with amphetamine to produce an agitated state. The underlying principle of these studies is based on the fact that amphetamine greatly increases the amount of dopamine released in the mesolimbic system of the brain. Since dopamine is one of the primary neurotransmitters related to schizophrenia, the construct validity of these models is considered to be reasonably high.
Some substances can however have limited or bad kinetic distribution in rodents, and thus not be properly tested in rats. Also, some substance related side-effects have been known to be only detectable in the non-rodent species. In these cases the tested canine model could potentially be used as an alternative method for detecting antipsychotic activity of substances. For this model to be of added value, it has to provide a good predictive validity.
For the experiment 12 Marshall Beagle dogs (6 male and 6 female) were selected based on their relatively low locomotory activity. The dogs were divided into 2 groups and dosed once per week. An actiwatch (sleep analysis system) was placed around the dogs necks before dosing and locomotion was registered continuously during an 8 hour period. The animals were subcutaneously dosed with 2,5 mg/kg amphetamine half an hour after dosing with a known antipsychotic. Observations were done at 75 and 45 minutes before dosing with amphetamine and 1, 2, 4 and 6 hours after dosing. The body temperature was also measured at these time intervals. Observations were done for 1 min. in front of the cage and for 10 min. through camera’s (undisturbed). During the observation periods stereotypical behavior caused by amphetamine was scored.
Two doses of haloperidol, olanzapine and risperidone were tested in this manner. The doses for these antipsychotics were based on ED50 values from previous conditioned avoidance response experiments. Results were compared to the maximum agitation; a value obtained from dosing with amphetamine without antipsychotic.
The results indicate that all tested antipsychotics are able to produce a lower state of locomotion as well as lower body temperature and stereotypy compared to dosing with amphetamine. While these results confirm the viability of the mechanisms of the model, no clear statements can be made about the predictive validity yet. This would require further investigation of more dosages of antipsychotics, tested in a higher number of dogs.
the neuotransmitters the body en the nerve system need to function have often a similar pattern as key to get in the cellwall. That key is the phenylethylpattern. Synthetic made neurotransmitters with similar pattern as real neurotransmitters are fake transmitters and are treated as real transmitters. The fake transmitters have a energy component too and burn the nerve end of the neuron. The neuron reacts with a threath reflex also known as doping effect. The damaged nerve system gives a los of control of the human behavior (agression, tics) and a different perception on reality (antidepressiva, hallucination, psychotic behavior).
The working mechanism explains why a treath reflex as a flight or fight mechanism gives a vasoconstriction. This can lead to a fatal pulmonary hypertension and on the level of the brains, shortage of oxygen, and in case of chronic occurrences can lead to the death of deeper braincells and so give dementia.
Kim in the biomedical master study at Antwerp, Belgium all antidepressiva are discussed as one group because they have the same core structure being amphetamine and also the same aim and target receptors. The amphetamine kills the mitochondria and the braincell will die. In the end it causes all kind of health complaints as so dementia and alzheimer. I guess you and your team know this.
My evidence is that the Court of Appeal of Pharmacist in Belgium has approved this rational.
Your comment is not complete and partly wrong. I am aware that you learned a lot in checking out the makeup of the clinical trial and about who they are testing on. But this is a personal statement.
I wonder what documents you have and read and what you find the evidence to support your "there was one drug for women and it was tested on men". Pfizer gave the FDA their findingfs of the clinical trials of Zoloft or Sertraline and that reports that the clinical trials were on women and men. Pfizer said the drug was not effective for men especially veterans of the VA Hospital. There was no information of influence of race or age.
Sorry for confusion I wasn’t saying this comment about Zoloft rather other drugs that we have reviewed on my advisory committee. I learned to check the makeup of clinical trials and compare to who it ultimately gets marketed to.
The drug Zoloft or Sertraline was only approved by the FDA when Pfizer included a warning that the drug was not effective in men (veterans). This was on basis of only 2 of more clinical trials. Pfizer did't
have more then these 2 clinical trials to prove that the drug was also effective for men.
Why not when they can double their profit when it is also effective for men ?
Because it is now known that they sell an amphetamine in disguise that harms the health of men !!!
The core element in the drug formula is phenylalkylamine in the molecule that can enter through the receptor(s) in the cell and then damage the mitochondria.
Spent a week in a locked suicide ward...no visitors or calls, but dedicated mental health, nursing and psychiatric team...apparently I had to ask and say I was before admission and after release apparently no one even knew I was struggling...
They diagnosed me bipolar put me on one and then a second medication to help tolerate the muscle movement...an empathetic NP took me off those and slowly adjusted an off label seizure medication
I continue with a regimented control with counseling, faith, medication and 12 steps...
Thanks for sharing your story Pete. I have heard similar ones over the years and am happy you have it under control. Faith has been a huge part of my healing too.
Pete, first they give you a low dose of antidepressiva to have a reaction and show you that the medication appears to be working (side-effects), then they move on saying that you need a higher dose but in the end you are not cured at all.
Then they start to give you anti-psychotica to hide the effects of the antidepressiva. In the end you are not cured because your brain has been changed by the meds.
They then call you BIPOLAIR.
Actually went straight from no meds to the suicide ward…
…that’s the Bipolar diagnosis
Frankly, I think it’s low grade autism secondary to vaccines at Camp LeJuene in 60-62 (age 1-3)…
Pete, frankly speaking the braincells are damaged and you loose control in behavior. See the free book in Google books Requiem of Presumed Diseases by Fernand Haesbrouck a pharmacist. He was a pharmacist working in several Mental Institutions and overlooked the medicin given. He saw the changes in the people getting the medicin. That made him speak aloud. Read also his personal story.
Pse read also the following texts:
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/11955/treatment-of-posttraumatic-stress-disorder-an-assessment-of-the-evidence
and
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24194395/ Sertraline, an antidepressant, induces apoptosis in hepatic cells through the mitogen-activated protein kinase pathway.
When your mitochondria in the cells are damaged the cell will die (apoptosis) and your brains are going to work different and give you another perspection of the world. No one can heal or cure this. What is dead will never live again in the way it has been before.
Pete, see also my contribution Requiem of Presumed Diseases (entry nov 5 above). It is Cyantific mass destruction mongering. The book gives an explanation of the working mechanism of medication of adhd and antidepressiva.
Good luck to you all.
Your continued sharing of Woody's story, gave me the knowledge to ask important questions of my sons healthcare provider. Her response that yes, there are blackbox suicide warnings but in all the years she has given Zoloft to teens, she has only had two or three that became suicidal. We no longer see that healthcare professional.
It’s so sad the way they write off victims as if their lives were not that important. It’s bad enough that often the providers don’t know about the risk, but when they know it, and just dismiss it, it’s doubly tragic.
I couldn't agree more, Christine. Back when my husband was given Zoloft for insomnia by his GP, the drug companies intentionally kept the deadly side effect "AKATHISIA" from GPs. So they didn't know. But today, in 2023, they better know and be curious to learn all they can about these brain altering medications. There is no excuse.
I am so glad you got a new healthcare professional. It is this cavalier attitude of "just a few or barely none or knew one a couple that had issues." We must never forget these small # or % is someone's 100%. One is too many when the information is out there to share.
Please share this historical background of the blackbox warnings. If doctors are NOT going to pay attention, then we must educate the public to ask questions. Thanks Lorri.
The Health Information Leaflet for professionals says Zoloft was approved in 1991 but had a warning in para 14.4 Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that Zoloft was not effective for men. So any prescription was not legal because it was of NO benefit to the patient but had side-effects.
Wow thanks for sharing this link. Interesting that this drug continues to be prescribed as a cocktail for Vets suffering from PTSD.
only the non-ethic health professionals knowing that the antidepressant has no benefits for the patient will prescribe this. They studied more then 5 years to learn that they have no questions but have to follow the health leaflet for the patient and they obey to Big Pharma. In the end it is all about money.
Kim,
Your courage to battle this issue of “unspeakable hardship” is commended. I personally understand the horrific adverse events of SSRIs and we must continue to fight for justice . No individual or family should suffer the broken dreams of lost or injured love ones by an industry sworn to “Do No Harm”. For many decades now the truth as been uncovered about these meds that are “bad & mad science” and society must be warned. The day of reckoning is near for Big Pharma to be held accountable and liable for generations of broken dreams and forever hardship. Godspeed
Thanks Bob or sharing your story and glad to be a partner on this battle. We need to hold the parties accountable for the damage done for decades. As you say, "No individual or family should suffer the broken dreams of lost or injured love ones by an industry sworn to “Do No Harm”. We know who wins the battle!!!
Kim, thank you for your continued efforts to expose the truth; teach the public about SSRI’s; and give families an opportunity to share their stories.
My own personal and professional experience informs me of the validity of this work , thank you for making it available.
May God in His wisdom guide it into the hands of all who are able to utilise it for the good of humanity.
Thanks Kaylene and appreciate the comment.
Please share this information widely. I am so thankful for the filmmakers that were present during the FDA hearings and press conference. Otherwise, we wouldn't have record of these hearings since no social media.
my husband committed suicide on antidepressants. It has been more than 14 years now, but there are still days you sit down and think what would have happened if I had just given him st Johns wort instead of letting him go see a psychiatrist.
Hi Ingrid. My heart goes out to you and can feel your pain in the question. I, too, have wondered similar things, but had no clue. We didn't know what we didn't know. We blindly trusted the doctor and never questioned the drug.
I am sending love and light for your heart. It's a hard journey and a club no one wanted to join.
This is so important to talk about. I almost lost a family member to a suicide attempt caused by the Prozac they’d been prescribed, and almost was traumatic enough. Thank you for continuing to speak out.
Joy - Thanks for sharing your family story. I am glad your loved one had a better outcome but know that's a tough road too. Please continue to share your story, the information in this post as I believe there is truly power in stories and information coming together.
It is a shame that none of those who died suddenly are recognized by the mainstream media as having died of ignorant and/or naive suicide by "vaccine."
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019839s74s86s87_20990s35s44s45lbl.pdf
see 14.4 ..............As PTSD is a more common disorder in women than men, the majority (76%) of patients in Studies PSTD-1 and PSTD-2 described above were women. Post hoc exploratory analyses revealed a statistically significant difference between ZOLOFT and placebo on the CAPS, IES and CGI in women, regardless of baseline diagnosis of comorbid major depressive disorder, but essentially no effect in the relatively smaller number of men in these studies. The
clinical significance of this apparent gender effect is unknown at this time. There was insufficient information to determine the effect of race or age on outcome.
My conclusion: When there is essentially NO EFFECT IN MEN who cares about clinical significance, gender, race or age.
I have found this often in the drugs my FDA Psychopharmacologic Drugs Ad Com is reviewing. I always check out the makeup of the clinical trial and you learn a lot about who they are testing the drugs on. There was one drug for women and it was tested on men. Or the disease is prevalent in a certain race or age, but they had super small # of people in this category. Thanks for sharing!!!
https://books.google.nl/books?id=ujJtebETIZUC&pg=PT12&hl=nl&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false
At the end of the first page of the Foreword the autor writes that my documentation was used to write the book Requiem for Presumed Diseases, Paperback, - June 29, 2012.
The book is one of a kind. It is hardly to find another text that explains in a normal way what fraud is going on and have this documented. Pse read before it disappears from the internet.
Reversibiliteit amfetamine geïnduceerde
agitatie in de hond
Afstudeerverslag
Versienr.: 1.0
Student: Lodewijk Toonen
E-mail: lja.toonen@student.avans.nl Bedrijf: Janssen Pharmaceutica Datum: Augustus 2009 Begeleidende docent: Ans Arets
Reversibiliteit amfetamine geïnduceerde
agitatie in de hond
Afstudeerverslag
Avans Hogeschool
Academie voor de Technologie van Gezondheid en Milieu
Naam Student: Lodewijk Toonen
Studentnummer: 1121642
Opleiding: Biologie en Medische Laboratoriumtechniek
Minor: Proefdierkunde
E-mail Adres Student: lja.toonen@student.avans.nl
Naam Bedrijf: Janssen Pharmaceutica
Afdeling: Neuroscience
Adres: Turnhoutseweg 30, Beerse (België)
Website: www.janssenpharmaceutica.be
Naam begeleider: Dhr. D. Smets
E-mail adres begeleider: dsmets@its.jnj.com
Naam projectleider/mentor: Dr. H. Borghys
E-mail adres projectleider/mentor: hborghys@its.jnj.com
Naam begeleidende docent: Mw. Drs. J.M.C. Arets
E-mail adres begeleidende docent: jmc.arets@avans.nl
Stagecoördinator: Mw. Dr. J.M.J. Wilmink
E-mail adres Stagecoördinator: jmj.wilmink@avans.nl
Summary
In this report a novel animal model based on the dopamine hypothesis of schizophrenia is described. The goal of the study was to evaluate the reversibility of amphetamine induced agitation in Beagle dogs. This model is similar to previously described locomotory studies in rats, where rats are dosed with amphetamine to produce an agitated state. The underlying principle of these studies is based on the fact that amphetamine greatly increases the amount of dopamine released in the mesolimbic system of the brain. Since dopamine is one of the primary neurotransmitters related to schizophrenia, the construct validity of these models is considered to be reasonably high.
Some substances can however have limited or bad kinetic distribution in rodents, and thus not be properly tested in rats. Also, some substance related side-effects have been known to be only detectable in the non-rodent species. In these cases the tested canine model could potentially be used as an alternative method for detecting antipsychotic activity of substances. For this model to be of added value, it has to provide a good predictive validity.
For the experiment 12 Marshall Beagle dogs (6 male and 6 female) were selected based on their relatively low locomotory activity. The dogs were divided into 2 groups and dosed once per week. An actiwatch (sleep analysis system) was placed around the dogs necks before dosing and locomotion was registered continuously during an 8 hour period. The animals were subcutaneously dosed with 2,5 mg/kg amphetamine half an hour after dosing with a known antipsychotic. Observations were done at 75 and 45 minutes before dosing with amphetamine and 1, 2, 4 and 6 hours after dosing. The body temperature was also measured at these time intervals. Observations were done for 1 min. in front of the cage and for 10 min. through camera’s (undisturbed). During the observation periods stereotypical behavior caused by amphetamine was scored.
Two doses of haloperidol, olanzapine and risperidone were tested in this manner. The doses for these antipsychotics were based on ED50 values from previous conditioned avoidance response experiments. Results were compared to the maximum agitation; a value obtained from dosing with amphetamine without antipsychotic.
The results indicate that all tested antipsychotics are able to produce a lower state of locomotion as well as lower body temperature and stereotypy compared to dosing with amphetamine. While these results confirm the viability of the mechanisms of the model, no clear statements can be made about the predictive validity yet. This would require further investigation of more dosages of antipsychotics, tested in a higher number of dogs.
the neuotransmitters the body en the nerve system need to function have often a similar pattern as key to get in the cellwall. That key is the phenylethylpattern. Synthetic made neurotransmitters with similar pattern as real neurotransmitters are fake transmitters and are treated as real transmitters. The fake transmitters have a energy component too and burn the nerve end of the neuron. The neuron reacts with a threath reflex also known as doping effect. The damaged nerve system gives a los of control of the human behavior (agression, tics) and a different perception on reality (antidepressiva, hallucination, psychotic behavior).
The working mechanism explains why a treath reflex as a flight or fight mechanism gives a vasoconstriction. This can lead to a fatal pulmonary hypertension and on the level of the brains, shortage of oxygen, and in case of chronic occurrences can lead to the death of deeper braincells and so give dementia.
Kim, I tried to share Pfizer and FDA documents with you. It is hard evidence that Zoloft is NOT effective for men. The upload was not successfull.
If you can give me an email-adress I will send you the documents.
Kim in the biomedical master study at Antwerp, Belgium all antidepressiva are discussed as one group because they have the same core structure being amphetamine and also the same aim and target receptors. The amphetamine kills the mitochondria and the braincell will die. In the end it causes all kind of health complaints as so dementia and alzheimer. I guess you and your team know this.
My evidence is that the Court of Appeal of Pharmacist in Belgium has approved this rational.
Your comment is not complete and partly wrong. I am aware that you learned a lot in checking out the makeup of the clinical trial and about who they are testing on. But this is a personal statement.
I wonder what documents you have and read and what you find the evidence to support your "there was one drug for women and it was tested on men". Pfizer gave the FDA their findingfs of the clinical trials of Zoloft or Sertraline and that reports that the clinical trials were on women and men. Pfizer said the drug was not effective for men especially veterans of the VA Hospital. There was no information of influence of race or age.
Please support your statement with evidence.
Sorry for confusion I wasn’t saying this comment about Zoloft rather other drugs that we have reviewed on my advisory committee. I learned to check the makeup of clinical trials and compare to who it ultimately gets marketed to.
The drug Zoloft or Sertraline was only approved by the FDA when Pfizer included a warning that the drug was not effective in men (veterans). This was on basis of only 2 of more clinical trials. Pfizer did't
have more then these 2 clinical trials to prove that the drug was also effective for men.
Why not when they can double their profit when it is also effective for men ?
Because it is now known that they sell an amphetamine in disguise that harms the health of men !!!
The core element in the drug formula is phenylalkylamine in the molecule that can enter through the receptor(s) in the cell and then damage the mitochondria.